6 Lessons I Learned From Being an Arrogant Marketer

by Sam Diener on February 15, 2010

At about 8:45 AM last Tuesday I was waiting for the bus to take me from Philly to NYC. It was approximately 24 degrees with a wind-chill of um….. 0.

Over the past 7 months I had managed to build a website reaching levels of success that had shocked many of the seasoned experts in the marketing field. Now I was responding to a request for a meeting for a speaking opportunity with the New York City Entrepreneurs Meetup Group. Yet the rare opportunity I might have allowed myself to feel proud or even a little bit smug, was sufficiently suppressed by one tiny little idiotic fact: I hadn’t even had the common sense to wear a hat or gloves and I was bitterly cold. My dear mother would have flipped out if she knew this fact.

Looking for anything to take my mind off of my current predicament, I opened up the February issue of INC Magazine. Because my fingers were pretty much frostbitten, even turning the page was a task I wasn’t really up for. I was stuck pondering page 24.

On the bottom of that page was a quote by a guy I had never heard of named Jeffrey Zeldman.

promoting yourselfPromote the hell out of your product—not yourself…” He further went on: “There is a difference between being arrogant about yourself as a person and being confident that your work has some value. The first is unattractive, the second is healthy and natural. Some people respond to one as if it were the other. Don’t confuse them. Marketing is not bragging, and touting one’s wares is not evil. The baker in the medieval town square must holler ‘fresh rolls’ if he hopes to feed the townfolk.”

Of course I was able to find a lot to think about based on this simple quote. The experienced entrepreneur or marketing executive might have the experiences to understand what Jeffrey Zeldman is talking about, but this lesson does not just apply to them, it applies to all of us. Because no matter what we THINK our profession is, we ALL are in sales and marketing and most of us have NOT had the experiences to truly understand the quote.

I may not fit your definition of “experienced” because I don’t have years, I have months. But when I initially started marketing my own website, I learned some valuable lessons by making the mistakes one can only make by being the “arrogant marketer” to which Jeffrey Zeldman was referring. It took failing by being egotistical to learn the tremendous value of “being confident that (my) work (had) some value.” There is no reason that you should make the same mistakes though. I would love to share some of the lessons I learned:

  • Advertising Your Popularity Hurts You: I once had an article read by eight thousand people in one day. But advertising that fact did NOTHING to make more people want to read that article. When you throw out numbers like this and people don’t know who you are, then you sound like you are trying too hard, and you turn people off or lose credibility. If people DO know who you are and you talk about how popular you are, then you look like a pretentious asshole. There are much more creative ways to go about it.

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  • Your friends are good for nothing! Your friends are your friends because they love you. They don’t love your business. In fact, your friends don’t want anything to do with your marketing efforts. If they did, they would work for you, and then they would be subordinates, and not friends. Don’t expect your friends to help you hustle. They really won’t like you if you do. I promise.

  • The Only Way To Get is to Give: It pains me to say it, but there is nothing free, especially in the marketing relationship. If you are thinking you can push a business relationship to spread your message for free think again. Be generous with favors and people will be generous in return. If you do get lucky enough to have someone help you without bringing something to the table, be ready to return the favor. Take a favor for granted, and you can kill a relationship. Additionally, asking for free favors from someone will usually put a thorn in someone’s side as well. I did this too much in the beginning and managed to piss off a few would-be connections.

  • The Most Effective Marketing For Your Product Is Done By Outsiders: This is a very true look at the value of social proof. Anything you say about your own product is simply discounted by the masses. If you can get just one publicly positive review from someone non-affiliated with your product then you are golden. However, the opposite is true as well - negative publicity is detrimental. Think about this: if you read a bad Yelp review, aren’t you going to think twice about going to that restaurant, doctor, or pet store? Now that we have social media, anyone can reinforce your marketing message, and your marketing power is revved up proportionally to that person’s sphere of influence. Previously – we had to rely on a telephone-like spread of ideas. This leads to my next point.

  • Networking Is Extremely networking is importantImportant As a New Age Marketer: This is something that I have understood since the beginning. In the traditional medium, a marketer can create an amazing advertisement and those they target with a billboard or advertisement are going to see it. Online, those with the most influence control a dramatic piece of what people see. Enlisting the help of these influential people is usually a function of networking and building relationships. In fact, if you are good enough at networking, you can have a huge impact without ever spending a penny. Of course, if you are an arrogant marketer, you could easily forget the point I made previously “The Only Way To Get Is To Give.”

  • You MUST Sell Yourself Or Your Company To Sell Your Product: I am going to establish some quick semantics here. Please understand that selling yourself is not the same as promoting yourself. From his quote above, I think Mr. Zeldman would agree that “promoting” yourself is meant to have an arrogant connotation. I would say that self-promotion borders on bragging and is certainly not the same as selling yourself. The actual process of selling one’s self is beyond the scope of this article. Some do it well, and others don’t. This is a large topic in itself, and I will address it in a future article.

There is certainly a point when a product or service reaches an ability to sell itself. Usually this is the result of an excellent marketing message, or an exceptional product. But in order to reach that “tipping-point,” a company or individual usually must sell itself well through effective marketing. But all of those who are successful understand that no-one likes an arrogant marketer.


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  • http://www.audiotranscriptionservices.co.nz/ Lenna K

    Another great article Sam, damn good! I like your 'straight-from-the-hip style of speaking and writing, and telling it like it is. I learnt a lot there and have bookmarked this article (as I have with others) for resources to pass on. We are connected on Linkedin.

    Regards
    Lenna

  • jimmatorin

    Networking Is Extremely Important As a New Age Marketer: Good point Sam. However, I do need to apologize. If you are going to post a tip like this you need to walk the talk. Networking is not about asking people to comment/connect so you can win a prize, it is about establishing relationsips, both online and real world. Networking is a long term commitment.

  • http://www.samdiener.com Sam Diener

    Jim, Thank you for your comment. However, I am not sure I understand the point you are making. Certainly I agree that you must network and build relationships not only for the end result. Did something in the writing lead you to believe I felt otherwise?

    Sam

  • Guest

    Hi there Jimmatorin… as Sam asked, I too, would like to know what he said that made you comment as you did, and at best, judge him as not walking his talk. Yes, networking is about establishing relationships, but where do they start from?They start from commenting, connecting with people. I have been on linkedin just a few short weeks and all I do is connect, comment, contribute, stay in touch, follow up, accept invites, invite others, join groups, leave them.From that, people I never knew, that I commented on, connected with, networked with and building friendship, colleagueship with, BUT not all networking leads to lasting friendships and relationships. Networking in itself is what you DO; what comes out of it is up to the party(ies) involved.I don’t understand, first you quote Sam, then affirm him, then apologize (for what?), then you judge him by saying he needs to walk the talk. Can you clarify? (unless I have misunderstood). I agree with you about networking but our perception is limited unless we look at all angles and the planet is full of people with their own perceptions and experiences, who experience networking differently.I look forward to hearing from you to clarify. Regards

  • Anonymous

    Lenna: LinkedIn is a networking platform. There are numerous other ways to network as well. LinkedIn is breeding situational connections. What is in it for me? Posting a discussion to generate comments to solicit a connection for increasing the number in your profile or winning a blogging contest is situational. After that, never following through is situational. The other type of networking, either using LinkedIn or other platforms is sustainable, where one takes time out to really get to know the other person/connection and explore commonalities, areas of learning, etc. Sustainable network connections take time. As a result, the relationships are long lasting. My conclusion? You have to find the networking philosophy that works best for you.

  • Guest

    Hi Jimmatorin: Thanks for your repy. If I misunderstand, let me know. But are you saying Sam is:”Posting a discussion to generate comments to solicit a connection for increasing the number in your profile or winning a blogging contest…”?There’s nothing wrong with starting a discussion, generating comments, increasing one’s own rankings, effectiveness, gain followers, etcetera… No-one knows what can come out of that, whether lasting or short term relationships or not. I have made connections through Sam’s discussions and others, that I am now building relationships with. I just didn’t think it was right if you were judging his motives for what he is doing or why. He is damn good at what he does in my opinion, and if he aint walking his talk then he aint who he says he is, and that’s not anyone’s call to make. Sustainability comes from situational experiences and relationships that are formed, grow and are maintained. I say, continue doing what you do that works for you. Hopefully, we all can do that but let’s not judge along the way. At the end of the day, it matters only that you and I and everyone else walks their own talk, not judge whether somebody else is or not.Kind RegardsLenna Km

  • jimmatorin

    Networking Is Extremely Important As a New Age Marketer: Good point Sam. However, I do need to apologize. If you are going to post a tip like this you need to walk the talk. Networking is not about asking people to comment/connect so you can win a prize, it is about establishing relationsips, both online and real world. Networking is a long term commitment.

  • http://www.samdiener.com Sam Diener

    Jim, Thank you for your comment. However, I am not sure I understand the point you are making. Certainly I agree that you must network and build relationships not only for the end result. Did something in the writing lead you to believe I felt otherwise?

    Sam

  • http://www.samdiener.com Sam Diener

    Actually I think I understand where Jim is coming from. However, his comment is somewhat cryptic and therefore needs some explanation… possibly.

    When I was in my blogging contest, I asked those having active conversations in Linked-In Groups to post their comments on the actual blog post so that others could participate in the discussion. One of the five or six criteria for judging was comments and quality of discussion generated from the post.

    Jim was one of the those that had an active discussion regarding my post and I asked him to post his same sentiments on the blog, so that these comments could be seen. Regardless of where comments on a post occur, they are still comments on that post. Notice how twitter reactions are looped in with comments in any blog post. Even though they were on linked-in, they deserve to be seen.

    During the contest when I did this, people not only were happy to share their comments, but requested to connect in response.

    Everyday, I get requests for people to be in my network with the sub note that “I enjoy your blog” or some derivative of such.

    There are different levels of connections, eg. the LIONs… see Sean Nelson's post: (are you a LION, Hound Dog, etc.) http://www.communitymarketing.typepad.com/my_we… on linked-in.

    I actually stay away from those that request my connection with no note. But anyone who says they like this site, I am happy to connect with. Some say they know me through my postings. I am just here trying to help people. If people want to do things for me in return, well that's okay too.

  • jimmatorin

    Lenna/Sam: At the beginning of the day there are three types of players in this world: Those that make things happen, those that watch things happening and those that do not know what is happening. You both appear to make things happen. Bon chance.

  • http://www.audiotranscriptionservices.co.nz/ Lenna Km

    Hi Sam

    Thanks for that. I agreed with what our friend said, with exception of a couple of things, but then again, I may have misunderstood and I apologise for that. Yes, I read on LI about the LION thing.

    Come to think of it, I get invites from LI and most don't bother writing a note – I always do! One or two follow up though and say a proper hello; most don't!

    Thank you for explaining things. I didn't question your motive and there is nothing wrong with what you asked him to do – everyone's perception is different. But I have something to say when someone judges. I'm no expert but I like to contribute where I can, and from that, some people have invited me to connect and I have got work through it! So, must be doing something right.

    I will pass you on to one of key connects on LI – she was asking if I knew of a good writer in my network! (If that's okay with you).

    Regards
    Lenna

  • http://www.audiotranscriptionservices.co.nz/ Lenna Km

    Hi Jimmatorin

    That was quick! I was just editing my post/errors! You know, I read what you said about the three types… because a go-getter said the same thing to me once and I was in a deplorable state at the time and thought, “Life is sure passing me by!”

    But now, in retrospect, I laugh now because I think of it in this way. We all, but I better speak for myself only. I think it's cool to do and be all three. I do make things happen otherwise they won't. I'm done relying on people. And it's my personality type.

    But it is good also, to stop and just watch and observe what's going on in and around us, and for sure, there are those times when I wonder what the heck is going on!

    All good, thanks.
    Lenna Km

  • http://www.samdiener.com Sam Diener

    Jim, thanks for what I take as a complement.

  • http://www.samdiener.com Sam Diener

    Lenna – of course!

  • jimmatorin

    Lenna/Sam:

    Link to an article that builds on some of my thoughts I communicated yesterday, especially as it relates to LinkedIn: http://bit.ly/b38qQS Enjoy

  • nancyleonard

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  • nancyleonard

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  • http://www.audiotranscriptionservices.co.nz/ Lenna Km

    Hi there Jim, thanks for sharing the link. Interesting. I get what he's saying, I think! I kind of see it like, for me, over the years I have formed many, many acquaintenances, contacts, connections, rubbed shoulders, colleagues, etcetera and have a few select, close knit, strong ties. I understand what he's saying about the weaker ties, but I believe it is those strong ties from which we truly grow, strengthen and develop. It is the strong ties that have taken me to places I've never been before; the ones that aren't afraid to kick my ass when I needed it. Weak ties are essential and I think really, we're all part of the human network that forms weak ties, strong ties in our day to day living and how we treat people. I have formed strong ties with people all over the planet. I guess, weak ties, strong ties – all need each other to make the world go round!

  • nancyleonard

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  • nancyleonard

    I happen to love your post and your site!

  • Guest

    Hi there Jim, thanks for sharing the link. Interesting. I get what he's saying, I think! I kind of see it like, for me, over the years I have formed many, many acquaintenances, contacts, connections, rubbed shoulders, colleagues, etcetera and have a few select, close knit, strong ties. I understand what he's saying about the weaker ties, but I believe it is those strong ties from which we truly grow, strengthen and develop. It is the strong ties that have taken me to places I've never been before; the ones that aren't afraid to kick my ass when I needed it. Weak ties are essential and I think really, we're all part of the human network that forms weak ties, strong ties in our day to day living and how we treat people. I have formed strong ties with people all over the planet. I guess, weak ties, strong ties – all need each other to make the world go round!

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